"is put in the perverse position of acting as the object of the jouissance of the Other. One is overcome with guilt and fear for what one takes as one's responsibility for a wrong one knows oneself's committed but doesn’t comprehend. One's desire becomes immersed in an overwhelming, persecutory jouissance, marked by a “sticky-sweet, vomity”
sensation, the signifier of one's seducer’s obscene enjoyment."
"the Other’s demand/desire determines the answer of the object and thereby deprives one of response and protection...complicity with the Other, as a child, causes one's rejection of speech as an adult, leaving one in an impossible conflict between mute
guilt and rebellion against the law. One's forced choice of a choice the Other has already made for oneself deprives one of choice, of freedom, and makes one an unwilling active participant in the injustice"